Stove pix up
Comments (0) Got some pix of the thing and of some of what I have done to it this morning. http://www.technoprimitive.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4
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Camp Cook Stove
By Dave, May 17, 2006 8:54 pm
Got tired of smoke and such on the bottom of the pans when cooking over the fire at the campsite so took a load of cement block and stove parts down there and put them together to make something to cook on.
Spent part of the afternoon today (wed) with a shovel and bucket getting dirt and filling the cavities in the block. After getting them packed I got a bucket of dirt and added water and mixed till a nice mud was formed. After 2 buckets of mud was applied and worked into the block around the top, front and sides are close to done and well covered. Got a fire in it to dry it as much as possible. Will have a lot of cracks to fill this way but will get it done quick. And it’s dirt cheap! 😉
Next step is to build a large smoker chamber on the back where the flue comes out. Gonna try to build it to take refrigerator shelving. Figure if I build it with a 4 foot high area with the width and depth of the fridge trays that should allow up to 200 pounds of meat to be smoked and/or slow cooked at a time.
Will try to get some pix of the basic stove sans smoker tomorrow.
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By Dave, May 10, 2006 12:20 pm
Interesting product line.
Treehugger: Strawbale Housing in Europe
By Dave, March 29, 2006 7:54 am
Treehugger: Strawbale Housing in Europe
More strawbale goodness from Treehugger!
Treehugger: Bulletproof Strawbale Police Stations for California
By Dave, March 29, 2006 7:51 am
Treehugger: Bulletproof Strawbale Police Stations for California
The concept of bulletproof strawbale police stations never occured to me for some reason. Never…
Water
By Dave, March 28, 2006 10:38 am
Either too much or not enough seems to be the standard. Bit of rain today just got the ground (that I had graded yesterday) damp. Not enough for mud, at least for now.
But back to the reason for this post. Last Friday (I think?) Steve G came over to borrow a laptop cable adaptor and after talking a bit at the yard sale trailer, we walked over to the qhut to get the adaptor. Cat detoured to get the mail. She handed me a letter from the Calhoun County Water Authority which I opened, to discover that we had used over 21,000 gal of water in the last month and as this is 4 to 5 times our usual they felt we might have a leak. Steve and I went out and started looking but didn’t find any obvious wet spots, so went on to the meter, to discover that it was in fact turning at about a gal a minute. I went down and cut off the line to the qhut and it quit turning. The 1/2 inch line runs inside a 3 inch pipe under the concrete floor and we didn’t have water in the floor inside so I figured it must be between the cutoff and the building where it entered the pipe. This left about 20 feet of line to unbrush, there being solid privit, sawbriars and blackberry vines over where the line went. Steve (being the bright person he is) swiftly exited stage north to attack problems of his own, while I went in search of tools of mass destruction.
Got the yellow toyoto (farm truck/tool hauler) from the yard sale trailer and drove back to the qhut (over a block) and proceded to cut at said saw briars, blackberry vines, privit, honey suckle, and assorted small trees of various kinds until I could see the ground. This also required moving an old refrigerator that I use for storage, assorted engine parts, and pieces of lawn mower and rock. But I perservered and upon locating ground started clearing the surface of leaves and assorted vines. Once I could see the actual dirt it did look wetter than elsewhere along the road. Took a shovel and locating the dampest looking spot dug in. First shovel full of dirt out and water started filling the hole. Another 2 and it was spraying out. Cut the valve off at that point and continued digging to expose the pipe. Only about a foot deep so no biggie. The crack was in the flair or curve at the first connection from the valve. 1/2 inch pvc schedule 40 (I think). Crach was only about 3/8 inch long. Stress crack from the look of it. We had a tree fall in the area of the valves during the last major storm so may have started it then.
Anyway the problem is to stop the leak. Went to the barn and looked in the usual places but was unable to locate either any fittings or any undried pvc glue. So cut a piece of heater hose about an inch long and found a screw type hose clamp and split the heater hose, wrapped it around the cracked area and put the hose clamp on and started tightening until it quit dripping. This is with the water still off at the valve but still coming back down line from that left in the pipes. Then another turn on the screw to set it and turned the water back on. No leak!
Now, several days later, the hole in the ground is still there, waiting for me to get the stuff to fix it for real, but the crack still ain’t leaking. Love the primitive repair!
Treehugger: Northern Dogtrot Retreat- a Nice Place to Unfold
By Dave, March 28, 2006 9:10 am
Treehugger: Northern Dogtrot Retreat- a Nice Place to Unfold
Nice looking small retreat. Wish I could see the site, but as with so many of these architectural sites, they depend ENTIRELY on FLASH so I (and I am sure quite a few linux users) can’t even see the site.
Note to folks with websites that depend on flash —
NOT EVERYONE IS WILLING OR ABLETO DOWNLOAD A PLUGIN THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO SEE YOUR OH SO CUTE FLASH CRAP SITE!
The web was built to operate using “htnl” as the primary language. ALL browsers support “html”. Many DO NOT support “flash” which is a proprietary bandwidth hog and IS NOT designed to render entire websites with, no matter what Macromedia may claim.
If you just HAVE to have flash on your site try to have another site rendered in standard html that the browser is redirected to that will allow viewing of your site…
UPDATE — I have heard from someone at this site and other than a problem with my remark “YOUR OH SO CUTE FLASH CRAP SITE” says that they are working on an html version of the site.
Also I want to clarify that I didn’t mean that their site is crap (I can’t view any of it so I really can’t know, now can I?) but that FLASH is a CRAP language in which to render an entire website.
Treehugger: O2 Sustainability Treehouse
By Dave, March 25, 2006 8:35 am
Treehugger: O2 Sustainability Treehouse
A different kind of tree house. Really different…
Kuznetsov’s Stoves - About our stoves
By Dave, March 24, 2006 9:14 am
Kuznetsov’s Stoves -ÂÂ
About our stoves
I know that I have linked to them before but couldn’t find the link for the longest time yesterday so…
Russian stoves, heaters, fireplaces and such. Uses one or more “bells” to retain the heat while the cooler combustion air flows up the flue.
Tinselman: How to Survive an Apocalypse
By Dave, February 22, 2006 6:30 pm
Tinselman: How to Survive an Apocalypse
Strange stuff but I like the dudes way of building!
and the Winners are
By Dave, February 22, 2006 5:30 pm
Neat stuff! There is a lot of 3rd world can do here! This is from the 2000 project. There are more available from the Home page.
Bamboo Living International Bamboo Building Design Competition
By Dave, February 11, 2006 9:21 pm
Bamboo Living International Bamboo Building Design Competition
More Bamboo stuff!
students-loft download bilder
By Dave, February 11, 2006 9:12 pm
Interesting concept. Not so sure about the prototype
Deb’s Diner – a photoset on Flickr
By Dave, February 2, 2006 2:05 pm
Deb’s Diner – a photoset on Flickr
Really cool old diner. Looks like they have good sized portions too!
Days in a daze
By Dave, January 8, 2006 10:06 am
Been trying to stay warm is about all here. Course been having to put up blueboard and finish some things to do that.
Got the duct installed into the trailer and up to within a foot of the ceiling in the aerie, with a fan sitting on top blowing down. Helps cool this area and warms the trailer nicely. Once the thermal mass wall is done and separates the greenhouse from the common room and aerie, I think the temperature will be easier to maintain too.
Had a brain spasm just now concerning the thermal mass wall. Wondering about putting a couple of water heater tanks in the wall and using them in a separate solar/geothermal heating/cooling system. Separate from the woodburning heater that is. And I can always install a set of coils in one of the bells of the stove when additional btu’s are needed too. With a line to the creek (which I keep thinking about) and a small pump I can cool the wall in the summer also. Gonna have to rethink a lot of this. Knew there was some reason I quit working on it when I did…
About figured out the new heaters operational habits. No real creosote stink in several days and have achieved top temps of 375 f as of this am so am going to call it workable. Still need to move it. But to do that I need to reconfigure the inside of the greenhouse and put in shelves and do a lot of things that I have been putting off. Guess its time to do them though cause I can’t start on the newer, bigger, better, faster, stronger heater till I get this one moved…
Update and clarification of the top temp of 375. This is the temperature as measured with an oven thermometer sitting on top of the stove 4 inches in front of the flue. I’ve found that if I can get it to 300 at this point that the smoke clears up and mostly heatwaves are emitting from the chimney.
Will try to get to other things like backed up email sometime today…
Friday morn and cold as hell here!
By Dave, January 3, 2006 10:41 am
Got down to 24.8 here last night. Not sure what time. Was at 25.2 at 6:15 when I got the fire going and came up to look. Inside was 48.6. 9:06 and we are at 35.4 outside and 64.8 inside.
Heater works fine, just not the way I am used to one working. No instant heat. Takes a while for the firebrick to heat up. Have the top at 150 now. The temp in the stack of brick on top is over 160 at the front and haven’t tested around back. Need to see if herrington would loan or sell me the temp gun. If not need to just buy one.
Rethinking the heater bell a bit.
Thought I had already posted this. Sorry for the delay. Will continue the thought in a new post.
More stove stuff
By Dave, December 29, 2005 6:33 pm
So today I rebuilt the inside of it again. This time without taking the hot coals out first… 😉
Got a pair of my blacksmithing tongs and got ALL the firebrick out of the stove. The still using the tongs grabbed the metal flame shield and rotated it until it would come out the door. Took it outside to cool. Then used a shovel to move all of the coals and ashes to one side. Put in a couple of firebrick in the middle of the bottom. Then two more on the right. Two more above them and once again two more. Then moved the coals and ashes to the bricks. And did the left side with firebrick the same as the right. Put several across the back and wedged a couple upright on the back side corners. Went to the barn and cut a couple of pieces of half inch thinwall conduit, flattened the ends and using the bender curved them to match the inside of the stove. Bent the ends at right angles to the outside of the curve and after coming back up here put them in under the top row of brick on the sides with the curve facing up. Then put (forced) firebrick between the conduit and the metal of the body of the heater.
Removed the ells and tees and all of the pipe. Gonna have to work out a way to introduce more air into the firebox. Will probably cut the door and add a slide or rotary air control. in the bottom of it.
Built a fire. Still smokey. Flue is too long. Gotta figure out a shorter way to vent it. Outside of the heater is much cooler so far but all of the firebrick will take a while to heat.
Been studying the stuff at http://www.stove.ru/index.php?lng=1 some more and it’s starting to make sense now. I am going to try to graft the top bell of OIK 14 to the top of this stove. Not the same exact thing as I am going to use a metal pipe for the top exhaust instead of using brick and am going to make it larger than shown in the drawing. But I think the basic design will work fine and give a LOT of added heat storage. Looks like it will take somewhere around 100 brick but I could be off by 20 or 30 either way. Built a mock up of it on the floor with brick but tore it down to reline the heater and failed to count the brick as I took it apart.
Okay, rebuilt it on some erector shelving material that I bolted together on top of the stove. Or 12 rows of it anyway. Just around the flue to see how it would sit. I think it will work fine. I am going to try to build the shell while the heater is going and then remove the flue, put the bricks in the bottom and put the pipe in, connect back to the top and fire it off again. I know that isn’t the way you are supossed to do it but we have no other heat so gonna have to make do. If necessary I can build a metal case around the outside of the brick bell to make sure it doesn’t smoke. After thinking on it a bit I think that dry stacking the brick with a case around it may be the best way to go.
Stove mods
By Dave, December 28, 2005 7:30 pm
Cleaned out the ashes and coals this afternoon and then removed the firebrick. Then the sand. Put in two pieces of 1 inch pipe, that I had drilled 3/8 inch holes every inch for a total of 12 holes in one side of each pipe, into the end of the ell and tee inside the firebox. Then put a broken off piece of firebrick between the ends of the pipe furtherest away from the inlet. Put firebrick on the outside of each pipe from the front to the back on each side. Added firebrick across the two pipes while leaving a half inch space between each one for ashes to fall through. This leaves a opening between the air inlet pipes and under the log support firebrick for ash to accumulate and air to get to the wood and coals.
After I got it all back in place sifted the coals and charcoal out of the ashes and put them back on top of the firebrick in the bottom of the stove. Added some dry stuff and cedar pieces and then larger logs after it got to going again. Will see if it is an improvement or not. Smokes worse but seems to be hotter. Will see…
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